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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.16 17:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Dead Soldier
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If you don't have a scout, find a different route...
How do you scout for an supercap ?
And now 1 ship can hold an supercap in one place and keep him there and call an big fleet to kill it.
1 dictor cant hold supercap - support will obliterate him
Or you mean the supercap that acts like "solopwnmobile"?. Then its his fault for getting separated from others...
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.17 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya
Edited by: Xeliya on 16/08/2007 18:21:04
Originally by: Julien Derida
Originally by: Xeliya
a dictor can go faster
It can?
Sabre
Now buy same equipement/implants/gangmods for ceptor user and he will go MUCH faster.
Its just sabre users tend to use gistii + snake sets, where most ceptor pilots dont. But with same equipement ceptor will be ALWAYS faster.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.18 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: The Kan
That could work, if the bastards didnt warp in, bubble up and warp out.
Like i said, it's comparable to a titan cyno in, fire ddd and cyno out.
that HAD to be nerfed.. same goes for dictors.
Because titan could be scrambled and easily killed in the process by solo rapier. Oh wait...
Thats the major difference. Dictors die - easily. You just need to have counter for them.
And accidentaly dictors ARE the counter for supercapitals, so you need other ship class to remove em.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.18 21:31:00 -
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Then you counteres supercap counter. Whats wrong with this?
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Posted - 2007.08.20 22:25:00 -
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Did you miss the fact that dictor usually stays in the middle of his own bubble just after dropping it?
Yes there is a way to evade it (warp, then drop bubble) but its up to CCP to FIX THEM so they stop ppl who initiated warp already.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.21 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Did you miss the fact that dictor usually stays in the middle of his own bubble just after dropping it?
Yes there is a way to evade it (warp, then drop bubble) but its up to CCP to FIX THEM so they stop ppl who initiated warp already.
Who knows that might change stuff a bit but most dictors can hit 5k per sec easy (with out gang bonus's) which means 4 sec they are out of the bubble and gone which is enough time for someone to click their name to start a lock. Or when it happens on a gate they can jump out.
Nano dictor (2x overdrive 2x polycarbon sabre - so quite expensive one) needs 5 seconds to get enough speed to warp out. So to get out of bubble he needs said 5 seconds, usually it is more. Thats PLENTY of time to get 1-2 points of him if you have tacklers who know what they are doing.
Ofc then tacklers need to survive dictor's assault but most of the pilots are busy escaping not fighting back.
Yes gate is a problem but noone orders yu to warp cap ships ON the gate. Not like it changes anything, even (as you stated) helps enemy keep em in one place.
The most important fix to bubbles would be stopping warp after dropped IMO. Would work both ways tho: stop dictor AND those people who started warp... so hard decision if you really want this :)
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya
20km Bubble > 10km SB. Drop it 11km behind and it will take just under 2 min to get out for any capital if he doesn't hit anything. Will take the same time to turn around and pop it.
Because when flying dictor you have time to assess situation, move exactly behind mom and place perfect 11km off bubble. At this time even titan will lock it...
Face it - bubbling is warp in-set orbit-drop-get out. If someone took his time to place bubble 11km BEHIND mom then i guess its well deserved that mom has problems. And you should fire your support pilots.
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But for the 100th time since people can't read this is about the fact of dictors being able to bubble anything not just super cap, but fleets, etc and get out while everyone has fun not being able to warp to a 10m isk ship that doesn't even have to stay in the fight.
And for the 100th time: dictors force you to fight. Not run/logoffski etc. Also BOTH sides can use dictors. You are acting as if only one side used em and other didnt. If youy know enemy has dictors - put bubbles in advance so they fall into trap and lose theirs. But any decent pilot/FC who knows dictor capabilities should know how to trap and kill ones.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Bein Glorious
Originally by: Xeliya
20km Bubble > 10km SB. Drop it 11km behind and it will take just under 2 min to get out for any capital if he doesn't hit anything. Will take the same time to turn around and pop it.
Get another, more mobile ship to smartbomb the bubble and save the mothership? It's not impossible.
And we can talk about dictor bubbles disappearing after CCP lets you scramble fighters and keep them from disappearing instantly when the carrier recalls them, and not one moment sooner.
Hmmm touche!
Also how was it? "when carrier/mom pilot logs off all fighters return to drone bay via in-built teleportation engines"?
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2007.08.22 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Did you forget that there are a near-infinite number of locations in every system besides gates and stations?
Directly on top of a gate isn't the safest place for a mothership, you know.
The OP isn't just about motherships...
Put MWD on fleet battleships. Counter module seems to exist...
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